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New Boat or Used Boat? We can't decide. New Bayliner or used (15 year old Sea Ray)..?
Same price (21k). We're torn. First time boat owners. One one side, a new boat would be mechanically problem free (warranty), lower rate to buy,...however not sure we want a Bayliner. Concerned about buying a used boat due to having to hire a Marine Surveyor, Marine Mechanic, sea trial, etc. all before feeling comfortable buying. With a new boat we wouldn't need to go through all this trouble. However something about a Sea Ray.."nicer looking boat, better reputation" HELP US DECIDE!!! 15 year old Sea Ray, or brand new Bayliner?
It's a Sea Ray 215 Weekender (cuddy cabin)
I would put my money on a used "anything" before buying a Bayliner.
I know the Bayliner is very tempting. That is exactly their marketing strategy. Bayliners are made and marketed to first time boat owners - and priced accordingly. Even though they come in all sizes - they are the "Yugos" of the boating industry. I know, they can be very tempting because of the low price - that seems like such a great deal - but fact is - they are not a deal at all. They look great on the show room floor... and fresh from it... but its all down hill from that moment on.
Before you succumb to the temptation, you need to visit a few Marinas and boatyards. At first glance walking around a Marina - look for the oldest looking derelict fiberglass boat you can find. If it is a Bayliner - check the age on the MFG tag at the stern... chances are, it will actually only be a few years old and far from the oldest in the Marina - it just looks older then the rest.
Yes, they have made improvements - not that long ago - their hulls simply slit wide open while running on choppy waters. While they don't do that anymore - their entire structure is the cheapest money can buy... cheap vinyl seats, carpet, resin, fiberglass, rails, hatches, windows - and these products all deteriorate really fast in the sun.
I don't know if your "Sea Ray" deal is a good one or not - "money" wise. But I do know that Sea Ray builds quality into their boats. Assuming however, that your Sea Ray is a good value (priced right) Then for sure, it is the better boat and will still look good for many more years then the Bayliner.
All that aside... Think about this... Your Sea Ray (if you take care of it) will probably not depreciate more then $4 or $5,000 over the next 5 years... That means in 5 years you most likely (if you take good care of it) will still have a boat worth $15,000. The Bayliner will be worth about $10,000 the moment you sign for it, and most likely in 5 years will not be worth $5,000 (even if someone will buy it).
Want to compare the facts? Look up the value on 15 year old Sea Rays... and look up the value on 15 year old Bayliners - as they say... the proof is in the pudding.
Happy and Safe Boating,
Capt. John
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Time for my long reply to something simpleL
Did you know in the Air Force that underware is not only a uniform item, it is oddly enough, an inspectable uniform item, since it is required with the uniform. (Never had it inspected, though. Also only boxers or briefs are acceptable. Neither men, nor women can wear thongs. Why this is an issue? No idea) Anyway, I've never don any cool stuff in the military that required the loss of underware.
I do occasionally take very stupidly rigourous camping trips where I hike or boat for 12 hours a day and sleep in a different spot every night, usually I find a “improved” bivy (w/ water) about once a week on those trips. Underware are worn every day, but changed constantly, washed in local water and then hung on the tactile vest (if warm out) or under the shirt (if cold out). That way you change undies and socks every 6 hours. Keeps feet and balls from rotting, and keeps a clean layer between sensitive bits and pants/boots. 'Course, no one is shooting at me when I do that.
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Here is a funny shark story, (not to funny for the shark though)
We were out shark fishing one night and hooked a big shark. We fought the thing as a team sport, reeling , pumping the rod, moving the boat to get back some of the line it took, yelling “BEER” and passing the rod to the next guy.
After hours of fighting the beast we finally brought it to the boat. It was a 12' bull shark, and it was still “frisky”. We decided we had better dispatch him before we brought it into the boat. Out comes the 12 guage, and BOOM!
We shot the line.
And watched in dismay as our monster slid into the bay.
We went home tired and sore with a story no one believed.
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